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Does every real estate developer really do this?

I am not a lawyer. Nothing I write on this blog should be construed as legal advice. In fact, it is highly questionable whether anything I write here should be construed as any sort of advice. Still, Trump’s fraud trial is an interesting one for us to discuss. The case, as I crudely understand it, accuses him of “inflating his net worth to dupe banks” and “issuing false financial statements every year between 2011 and 2021.” And possibly some other things, too.

Now there are some people who are saying that there’s nothing actually wrong with the way Trump conducts his real estate practice. Kevin O’Leary, for instance, was just on CNN saying, “every real estate developer everywhere does this.” His position was that if you’re going to fault Trump, then you need to go after every developer out there. Here’s the video interview where he says this:

Let’s break this down. Kevin is right in that people who own real estate ordinarily want it to be worth as much as possible. This is true for individual homeowners and it’s true for large real estate companies. And there are various reasons for this. One reason is that it maximizes your debt proceeds. For example, if you buy a building for $100 and the banks are willing to give you a loan based on a LTV (loan-to-value) of 70%, then you will get $70 in debt proceeds and you will need to put in $30 of your own cash equity.

However, if you buy a building for $100 and it ends up being worth ~$143, then this same 70% LTV will result in $100 of debt proceeds. This means that you won’t need to put in any of your own cash and that, for all intents and purposes, you just got a building for “free.” By most metrics, this would be considered a good real estate deal. (Of course, you could also buy a building for $100 and have it be worth only $50. And this would be much less fun than getting free real estate.)

One important question, though, is how does the building end up “being worth $143?” Well, one scenario could be that you just bought really well. It was an off-market transaction (i.e. it wasn’t formally listed), the seller was highly motivated, and so you negotiated a below-market purchase price. You then went out and hired a reputable third-party appraiser who did a bunch of rigorous research and issued you a report that said, “your building is worth $143.” And this would be perfectly fine.

But one can also imagine ways in which someone could lie and do nefarious things to try and convince people that their building is worth $143, even if it clearly isn’t. Now, at the end of the day, I don’t know the facts of this case. So I can’t comment directly. But I did want to use this as an opportunity to add some nuance to Kevin’s claim that “every real estate developer everywhere does this.” Ultimately, that depends on what “this” is. Are we talking about doing customary things to maximize value creation? Or are we talking about fraud?

5 responses to “Does every real estate developer really do this?”

  1. scottonthespot Avatar

    From what I understand, Trump reported his NYC apartment was 32,000sf when it was really just 18,000sf. Factual differences like that are not a matter of opinion, that’s fraud. The bank should have done its due diligence and sent an independent assessor out on such a valuable asset but they didn’t, so arguably both parties are at fault – and perhaps the bank made allowances because they figured they would get more money back as interest over time on a larger value loan than a smaller loan. But that doesn’t make it right, and the taxpayer loses out on the other extreme when Trump UNDERvalues that same property for tax purposes. The interview was very softball and ignorant and didn’t touch on this issue at all.
    “the Palm Beach County assessor had appraised Mar-a-Lago’s market value to be between $18 million and $27.6 million, Trump had put it at between $426.5 million to $612.1 million in filings—”an overvaluation of at least 2,300 percent.” – https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-mar-lago-worth-donald-trump-florida-property-1830195. This is more a matter of opinion, and also whether Mar-a-lago is valued as a business vs. a residence for Trump. Since Trump owns this resort and it has very high membership fees, at least in part because he lives there now, it seems right to include some of the business worth in the valuation. The PB County assessment seems way too low to me, so there’s an argument there.
    BTW, in NYC, judge Engoron has a history of being over-turned on appeal. There’s a famous CRE case of a 3-developer 4-tower Large Scale Residential Development (LSRD) project in downtown Manhattan that he stopped on the plaintiff’s behalf because he thought it was major and should not be built as-of-right, but the appeals court ruled otherwise and it’s now proceeding. This is not the only time either that he has favored anti-development plaintiffs over developers and been overturned on appeal. We certainly won’t know the final outcome of all the appeals until after election day.

  2. Greg Shron Avatar
    Greg Shron

    Does every real estate developer push the envelope on property valuation for financing purposes? Pretty close, I suspect. Does any real estate developer with a shred of integrity (or shame) fraudulently represent to a lender that their 11,000 sf penthouse is 30,000 sf and worth triple its fair market value? Uh, no.

  3. Allan Jensen Avatar
    Allan Jensen

    I was a commercial real estate lender (institutional) for 35 years. I have seen a lot of deals and I have to say that many developers have a “positive” bias, and why shouldn’t they? If you are capitalizing a stream of income from a AAA tenant ( say a big 5 Bank tenant) then it’s not outlandish to perhaps “average” the rent over the lease term. That certainly leads to an enhanced value estimate. There are many other examples/techniques too numerous to state. It’s quite a different story to commit fraud however. The lending community is not that large. Word soon gets around as to which developers play fast and loose with valuations. If the developer plans to be in the game a long time, they are shooting themselves in the foot for this type of activity. We used to say those types of deals “had hair on them”.

  4. Steve Simith Avatar

    Intriguing take on Trump’s fraud trial and the common practices in real estate. Your distinction between legitimate value maximization and potential fraud adds depth to the conversation. Insightful read, looking forward to more nuanced discussions on real estate dynamics!

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