# No right on red, except with green arrow

By [Brandon Donnelly](https://brandondonnelly.com) · 2023-02-10

bloor-and-symington-intersection, bloor-street-west, google-streetview, mobility, no-right-on-red, symington-avenue, toronto, traffic-sign, urbanism

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I have a road sign question for all of you today. Here is a photo (from Google) of Bloor Street West and Symington Avenue in Toronto. It is an offset intersection. And as you will see, there are signs saying no right-hand turns on red, "except with green arrow."

![](https://storage.googleapis.com/papyrus_images/bd731ae4cd7c9a1a2afd48c97514ea4b.png)

Also present at the intersection is a traffic light with the ability to communicate in four different ways: a green circle, a yellow circle, a red circle, and a green arrow pointing right. My question to all of you is this: when is it permissible to turn right?

It is clearly not permissible to turn right when the light is red. But can you turn right with either a full green circle _or_ a green right arrow, or can you _only_ turn when there's a green arrow pointing right? i.e. No right when there's just a green circle.

If you can, please leave a comment below. Depending on how this goes, I could be either winning a bet or losing a bet.

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*Originally published on [Brandon Donnelly](https://brandondonnelly.com/no-right-on-red,-except-with-green-arrow)*